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Episode III: Komodo Dragon Speaks of Poetry as Language, Dreaming
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Episode III: Komodo Dragon Speaks of Poetry as Language, Dreaming

A Conversation on Poetry with Joseph Spece

Joseph Spece and I recorded this podcast in Kittery, Maine during April, 2024 within a hotel near a highway (hence the spectral white noise that was recalcitrant to full reduction but offers an intriguing spectral quality to the conversation). We spoke after a morning of delicious cruller-eating at a café.

During this podcast we speak about many topics, including utility, The Shining (which we watched the night before), proper readers, the demand for an accessible language, proximity to legibility, alchemy, Richard Howard, the totalitarianism of the commonplace, musical instruments, Stephanie Adams-Santos, SHARKPACK, acclimation to venom, pill-bug bacchanals and much much more.

In this episode, Joseph reads his poems Post-Chrysalis and What is Love Like? from his collection Roads and his yet unpublished poem that he shared on air, entitled Self-Portrait as Shepherdess.

Memorable quotes during this conversation include:

“He had to act in order for the music to reach a chant pitch.”

"Risk impossible and deathly trash."

“Attend or don't Attend, I will Proceed.”

Guest Bio:

Joseph Spece is editor at FATHOMBOOKS & a training candidate in psychoanalysis at the C.G. Jung Institute, Zürich. His volumes are Roads (Cherry Grove, 2013), BAD ZOO (FATHOM, 2018), & horse head underwater, forthcoming from Clawfoot in 2027. He lives in Berkshire County, MA.

Resources:

From Diagram:

Two Poems

Three poems by Joseph Spece available via Poetry Foundation:

Queen, you are fathomed

Lascaux

Among Elks

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Mastering credit to Jorge Zerpa, Los Angeles, California.

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